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Post by killergopher on May 8, 2009 22:45:41 GMT -7
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Post by MissFire on May 9, 2009 16:51:26 GMT -7
I believe Germany already outlaws the use of BDUs or military gear for paintball. I guess it is paintball next.  |
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Post by germang36 on May 9, 2009 22:17:17 GMT -7
I believe Germany already outlaws the use of BDUs or military gear for paintball. I guess it is paintball next. No, not quite correct. The only thing which is forbidden are military ranks on uniforms or uniforms out of the Third Reich. You all have to know that there is the election coming up this year and after the deadly school shooting couple weeks ago, the government tries to show strength. But the problem is that politicians like to go the way with the least amount of resistance and Paintball is a very small industry compared to the real firearms industry. IMO they should change the law for all of the rod and gun clubs. As of now, every member of those clubs is allowed to take his weapon home. But that does not make any sense because you can only shoot your weapon in the club. And here lays the problem, the last two school shootings were possible because these two kids managed to get access to the weapons at home. Also that is why I'm totally against weapons at home at all and I would highly welcome a ban of weapons at private homes. |
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Post by killergopher on May 10, 2009 8:18:40 GMT -7
So do you think it will happen? I don’t know much about the political system in Germany, will it go to a vote? If it does is it just by the politicians or does the general public get a say?
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Post by germang36 on May 10, 2009 8:43:00 GMT -7
Unfortunately no. Only the politicians will vote. IMO I think it will not happen because the discussion about a potential ban of paintball created alot critique in the press and general public.
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Post by roaklin on May 10, 2009 11:06:47 GMT -7
It may not happen there, but it is a wake up call to watch and fight any such activity here in the US. It does show the usual politican thing of way over react AFTER a situation has happened isn't just limited to this country's elected officals.
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Post by brettb on May 11, 2009 1:01:46 GMT -7
haben Sie die Möglichkeit, zu wählen? und auch ich denke, seine Stier Mist, dass die Regierung ist, dass ich weiß, dass meine Cousine will jetzt, Deutschland zu verlassen. Sorry für meine schlampig Deutsch
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Post by MissFire on May 11, 2009 13:02:52 GMT -7
haben Sie die Möglichkeit, zu wählen? und auch ich denke, seine Stier Mist, dass die Regierung ist, dass ich weiß, dass meine Cousine will jetzt, Deutschland zu verlassen. Sorry für meine schlampig Deutsch Is your cousin in the military? |
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Post by MacGyver on May 12, 2009 20:14:17 GMT -7
I believe Germany already outlaws the use of BDUs or military gear for paintball. I guess it is paintball next. No, not quite correct. The only thing which is forbidden are military ranks on uniforms or uniforms out of the Third Reich. You all have to know that there is the election coming up this year and after the deadly school shooting couple weeks ago, the government tries to show strength. But the problem is that politicians like to go the way with the least amount of resistance and Paintball is a very small industry compared to the real firearms industry. IMO they should change the law for all of the rod and gun clubs. As of now, every member of those clubs is allowed to take his weapon home. But that does not make any sense because you can only shoot your weapon in the club. And here lays the problem, the last two school shootings were possible because these two kids managed to get access to the weapons at home. Also that is why I'm totally against weapons at home at all and I would highly welcome a ban of weapons at private homes. I would have to say you are right in saying that politicians always prefer to go after the easy targets (the path of least resistance) and the fastest/easiest answer is to go after a smaller group (like paintballers) but I would have to say that any draconian legislation that puts peoples weapons in one easy to confiscate location defeats the whole purpose of having any defensive weapons. By not having them in homes and holding the owners responsible you: (1) make it easier for thieves to get larger quantities at one time (2) make it easier for the government to take your property (3) makes your weapons inaccessible if you might ever need to use one (such as to defend against a home invasion or riot) there are more but these are good examples I would agree that the owners need to be held at least partially responsible. But in almost every case that guns are illegally used the people using them would have acquired them through whatever means they felt was necessary (theft or black market if not legally) If you know where to look there are often many more legal uses of weapons in defensive situations to stop/prevent criminal activities (they just do not make the headlines) All I can say is that if people aren't careful it only takes a few incidents like these to ruin things for everyone. And knowledge and understanding of what and how criminals think and what they are willing to do to achieve their goal is the only real way to prevent these things from happening again and again and even then you will not stop all of them... even if you took every weapon and destroyed them (the criminal would improvise something to do the job they want to do) If you don't want to believe this take a look at some areas that have some of the most restrictive gun laws here in the U.S. and most have the same thing in common: crime is higher in those areas than in the surrounding areas that have less restrictions for myself I would not welcome any more gun controls or restrictions but I would support harsher punishments for the illegal use of weapons |
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